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BILL MOYERS: Two of the organizers of Occupy Wall Street are with me now in the studio. Nelini Stamp is an activist with the Working Families Party here in New York. The party is backed by unions and community organizations. Amin Husain left the practice of corporate law to become an artist. He's been working 15 hours a day on Occupy Wall Street. Welcome to both of you. Let's begin with you, Amin. What makes you think that the movement can have any effect on the huge inequality existing in America today?

AMIN HUSAIN: I think the time's right. I think there's moments in history when the economic, political and social system can't take anymore and I think we've been on that trajectory for over 20 years. And I think it's culminated in the loss of jobs, tangible things. Loss of jobs, loss of homes and people don't see the political process working for them so that the government no longer represents the will of the people. And that's why they're on the streets.

BILL MOYERS: You've been very active in politics in New York City. Do you think politics can get us out of the mess?

NELINI STAMP: It's not just politics. It's people on the streets. It's people organizing and assembling. And I think that all of those-- it's kind of, you know, hitting the system as it is up from all sides.

And together that's what makes it actually work and that's what pushes it through. So I think politics is just one section of the larger frame, meaning we need people to publicly call out the inequalities as well and not just through the political process, because the political process, many people feel disenfranchised from.

BILL MOYERS: The Tea Party movement in this country has been very effective in disciplining the Republican Party. Shouldn't you do that with the Democratic Party? Take it over. Make it discipline its politicians? Make it responsive to what you are asking for?

AMIN HUSAIN: I mean, I don't think so. I mean look at the Tea Party. How long has it been around? We're still in a worse mess. Just because they seem to have corrected the Republican Party doesn't mean we're in a better position. There's structural problems. And a Tea Party situation within a political process isn't going to solve it. Just like a law or a policy isn't going to solve the problems that we face.

BILL MOYERS: But the abolitionists, a long time ago in this country, needed Lincoln in the White House to free the slaves. The suffragettes needed support from Teddy Roosevelt and others in politics to bring about women's voting rights. Don't you need a political party as your ally in pursuing greater equality?

AMIN HUSAIN: I think it's a question of time and it's in time. And the time that we're in right now is about empowering each other. Radicalizing each other. Letting us know what the issues are. What the solutions are. We come together outside of the process.

BILL MOYERS: What do you mean radicalizing?

AMIN HUSAIN: In other words, we need to start imagining what the world could be. Martin Luther King didn't come and Lyndon Johnson adopted a bill. He said, "I had a dream." That's radical. Do we have a dream? People in Liberty Square had a dream. No war. No oppression. No racism. No patriarchy. Justice. Fairness. Equality. I want to hear a dream articulated that has these things in them.

NELINI STAMP: If we ask for demands then we're just submitting to power. However, we can continue to organize and continue to push and continue to radicalize and continue to move the country to the left and continue to make the narrative about economic inequality and existing organizations who have been fighting for the most marginalized voices in these countries can push through their demands.

BILL MOYERS: But are you saying organized politics is not for you? That the political parties cannot-- that the Democratic Party cannot be your ally?

AMIN HUSAIN: This is not a rejectionist movement. It's an inclusive movement. It's a movement that's for the people to join and form and articulate themselves. And it's ever-changing. But it's not left and right either. You can be left and right and say you're 99 percent. It's about economic and social justice. And I think we all agree on that. The question is how do we articulate it and how do we move towards it.

This movement, in a way, you can think about as a continuation of the civil rights movement. Right? A project that hasn't been completed. Right? It's a moral movement that talks about social and economic justice. For us to begin to articulate it down into a policy or a law is not what we're doing.

But what we have done is radicalized organized labor. Churches, people on the streets. By that I mean they are making their voices heard by having their bodies in a space saying, "Enough. You bank, you government, you Democratic Party, you Republican Party, you're not doing your job. You're not as legitimate as you once were. And we're going to take matters into our own hands non-violently."

BILL MOYERS: The Tea Party does have advantages. They have deep pockets on their side. They have strong links to the establishment of the Republican Party. They have Fox News. What do you consider your assets?

NELINI STAMP: I think we have strength in numbers. I definitely think that because we don't have corporate money and because we don't have Fox News, because we have our own media that's coming out, our own narrative, our own control of the story, I think that's totally to our advantage because we as a collective and as a community have been creating our message.

And have been framing it for ourselves. Not letting other, you know, with Fox News, the Fox News speaks for the Tea Party. That's not the Tea Party speaking. And sometimes they do, on it. But with us we speak for ourselves because we are putting the stuff out there. We're putting the media message.

And a lot of things just come from us and are organic and fresh and everyone kind of has a say in it as well.

BILL MOYERS: What's the story you would like to tell the country?

NELINI STAMP: The system is broken and it needs to be fixed or it needs to be completely, changed and radicalized and reformed. Like real reforms and not just the small reforms that we get every day.

I think that is about a social and economic justice movement, but also about a cultural shift too. So not only are we changing in economic inequalities and changing the narrative, but also a cultural shift in my mind.

BILL MOYERS: What do you think, say, is the story?

AMIN HUSAIN: I think the story is that this is a social and economic justice movement that has a moral imperative. And within that context it's critical of the structure. And I think there's an undercurrent of like capitalism gone astray a little bit. And we can narrow, we can flush that out.

That's to say the link between global capital and state or government and Wall Street, however you want to mention it, that link has become too strong, too cozy, too unchecked. Right? But the solutions to that problem is where we need to get together and empower one another. And don't think that an election, or a president is going to solve it.

BILL MOYERS: What would you like the banks to do, Nelini?

NELINI STAMP: They need to held accountable. They need to be transparent. They're not transparent with their records. They don't-- some banks don't even pay taxes for the year. And we bailed them out. They need to be regulated.

BILL MOYERS: You keep using the word radicalize. Now a lot of Americans are frightened by that word, radical. Help me understand, help them understand what you mean.

AMIN HUSAIN: We're used to putting laws in place. Right? As a way of solving problems. But the problem is those laws, whether you're going to address corporate personhood or you're going to put a statue back in place or whatever, doesn't deal with the fundamental issue that the political process is broken.

That the government, the way things are structured right now, there isn't-- the people's voice isn't being heard. You can flip it around and you can be like, "That's' kind of radical, that people's voices in a democracy aren't being heard." By radical I mean that we need to step out of our comfort zone and be more involved in our life.

BILL MOYERS: I don't want to be querulous about this, but I come out of my roots, my past. A conventional past in politics and government. And America is different today because of the Civil Right Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. And I still am puzzled as to how you get what you want unless you push these reforms up the political process.

AMIN HUSAIN: It's a question of timing. How long did the civil rights movement last? Four years?

BILL MOYERS: Well, 100 years before, yeah.

AMIN HUSAIN: Okay. And what you got was a statute. And it dealt with racism. But there was a dream that articulated how the world was supposed to be, right? For African Americans, for people of color, dealing with injustice. Right? And then they said, "What was the road block to that dream?" And they said it was the law. The laws are fundamentally racist.

So what are we going to do? "We're going to pass a law, a legislative bill, that's going to deal with that." But I think that that process, we can't short-- you had two months of a movement in its nascent stage.

And all of a sudden you have political parties that want to come with 99 percent-- you know, people running an election process at the time elections are coming up and you think you're going to have change? I voted for Obama. And I campaigned for him in Pittsburgh. Right? The only time in my life I campaigned for political-- for a president. And I never voted Democrat or Republican. For change. And look what we have.

BILL MOYERS: Will you vote for him again?

AMIN HUSAIN: No.

BILL MOYERS: Who will you vote for?

AMIN HUSAIN: I want another-- this is radical. I want another one that says my vote needs to count. That's what I want to vote. Because two people, two parties right now talking about like having an internal discussion almost with the people on the side losing their homes, losing their job, can't agree. They ditched democracy for a super committee. And they think that we live in a democracy?

BILL MOYERS: Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but in the real world there are two parties. You either vote for the Republicans in November or you vote for the Democrats, right?

AMIN HUSAIN: The real world is what put us in Liberty Square sleeping on the ground. I want to live in a world that we create together. That's built on justice. And it's a dream. Right? But it's a dream everyone could get behind. And I'm not going to vote for someone because I don't have an alternative. I'm going to create that alternative.

NELINI STAMP: And it's going to be a long battle, though. I mean that's-- it takes time. You know? I mean we just discussed the civil rights movement was hundreds of years-- I mean 100 years. And even then, we-- it's going to take time.

I do focus on reform sometimes. And, you know more so. And those are really important, but the problem, the fundamental problem, is that people don't feel like their voices are being heard. They don't feel like they have a say in their own space, in their own life, because they're being drained by not just economic inequalities but, you know, civil rights injustice.

It's been a struggle, I think, among many people that there has been, you know, Democrat, Republican, it really doesn't make a difference now.

BILL MOYERS: Where do you place the responsibility for the disappointment you're feeling? Is it with the president or is it with the fact that any progressive president is up against a system that is so rigged and so fixed that any real reform is almost impossible to achieve in the immediate moment.

NELINI STAMP: Well, it's two things. We put too much hope and faith and change into one person. I mean we settled it all on this one person who we thought was going to change the whole system. And then two years later, 2010, it goes completely to the right wing.

So that's a fundamental problem within itself, that it doesn't just fall-- I mean the president is, you know, the president, but it's also the House and Congress that really make things move in Washington. But even outside of that I'm mad at the whole political process. I don't get represented in my vote.

And it's not just about the candidates and what they can do and what party they're aligned with, but the actual complete process of how we go about voting for someone and what that means and their campaigns and how they're not talking to their community. They just buy ads on television and, you know, just display.

And they're not going door-to-door in their communities. They're not knowing who their community is. And you could-- even on the local level sometimes you don't know your representative or you don't even think you could have a face-to-face sit down conversation. And that's completely unjust and unfair.

BILL MOYERS: So what can we expect in this new year?

NELINI STAMP: I think that what this movement is going to do is, and I hope-- well, I hope that we, hopefully help and facilitate people to empower themselves to take action. To have more places to assemble. To have-- I wish in the spring that we have a big occupation that is in a big public space and that we occupy even more. Using the tactic of occupation to occupy more space.

BILL MOYERS: Washington? In Washington?

NELINI STAMP: In D.C.-

BILL MOYERS: Everywhere?

NELINI STAMP: Everywhere. In Albany, in these small towns, in a town-- even if it's 10 people sitting in their town square. Like everywhere. Take those spaces and transform them. And, you know, make it that people can assemble. That people can organize. Just educate each other and learn from each other. And continue to build on that. And you will see, hopefully, a massive mobilization happen next year.

BILL MOYERS: Amin Husain and Nelini Stamp, thank you for being with me.

AMIN HUSAIN: Thank you.

NELINI STAMP: Thank you.

Two Occupy Organizers on Goals of the Protest

January 13, 2012

Bill Moyers interviews two Occupy Wall Street organizers who share insight into the movement and what it hopes to accomplish. Nelini Stamp is an activist with the Working Families Party in New York, which is backed by unions and community organizations.  Amin Husain, who left his corporate law practice to become an artist, has been working 15 hours a day on Occupy Wall Street.

 

Worthy Reads:

The Nation: Naomi Klein and Yotam Marom on Occupy Wall Street

 

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  • Wilkerson Brown

    Thank you for coming back, this segment is the most relevant. What is radical and still not being addressed is global justice, these issues are worldwide and have been since time (government)  began. I wish Howard Zinn could be here. The top .01% is a separate economy dependent on gambling and cheap labor (we used to call it feudalism, slavery, etc). What is not being discussed and I think people are afraid to even acknowledge is we have a global economy based upon consuming instead of prospering. Our country is still rich and still dependent on other countries being poor. We consume our planet at 5 times what it can sustain, and now we serfs are dependent on the consumption cycle. We are occupying city squares because we are too distant from the farm. We have no choice but to continue playing the game that is killing us, and get sick to our stomach when considering our children’s future.

  • Anonymous

    First…Mr. Moyers, thank you for coming back to TV. It is unfortunate that my local PBS channel has chosen to put you on at an obscure time, Sunday, January 15th at 11:00am instead of  your regular Friday evening air time. They have been this way for a while now, they did it with your previous program and they did with Now with David Brancaccio and they do it with most of the progressive programs that PBS has available like Frontline and Independent Lens. Why? Because they are afraid to offend the moneyed interests…the .1%(Jaime Diamond gave the commencement speech at a local university 2 years ago, despite student objection and that university is a powerful economic force in the community) and the second reason is the local tea party movement and their sympathizers, the local evangelical churches and the corporate owned conservative AM radio news media and many newspapers which have had a monopoly on political speech for over 25 years now in this area. Your conversation with Occupy Wall Street should have been part of the regular program, not something that people have to seek out online in an extra segment. Some people get their internet at the library, not in the comfort of their homes. I think that you have trivialized Occupy Wall Street  in your statements, when you join the corporate media in maintaining they must “change” the Democratic Party as the Tea Party supposedly changed the Republican Party by moving it more to the right…the Republican Party was already about as far to the right as it could get, now it is obscene. The Tea Party was created by the Koch Brothers, funded by the Koch Brothers through an “astroturf” organization that they funded. Honest Americans were duped, gamed and lied to by the organizers of the Tea Party to advance the agenda of the .1%. This is the danger to our Democracy now, that well-meaning people will think they are accomplishing something for their betterment when in actuality they are being lied to and are being the soldiers for the interests of the “money”, the .1%   and then they actually end up voting agaist their own best interests and shooting themselves in the foot. That is the genius of what I call the Big Lie…that no matter where the 99.9% turns they are lied to and manipulated to work against their own best interests. That is what Occupy seeks to avoid. You should do them a favor and investigate why they were all evicted in the same manner, at the same time of the night, in multiple cities in what looks like co-ordinated events. And how peaceful protesters were beat and pepper sprayed in violation of their first amendement rights with no subsequent arrests or prosecutions for excessive force. Also realize that serveral smaller cities decided to work with the protestors and agree to some ground rules and allow them to occupy a public space and how some prosecutors, police and judges refuse to arrest or try these protestors. I grew up in  the 60′s and 70′s and that time was like a breath of fresh air, now we suffer the retribution for our brief period of freedom and justice. Unlike what Nelini Stamp said about the civil rights movement taking 100 years to bear fruit, I don’t think we can wait 100 years for justice…by then we be irrevocably like Mexico or another third world country with our compliance assured by the barrels of guns or the clean, modern, “surgical” way…with drones. I hope you might be reading this Mr. Moyers and if you do , I wish you good luck…but please pay attention, don’t help advance the Big Lie. Thank You!

  • Me

    Not voting is a mistake. Voting doesn’t make the difference that you’d want, and it’s far from enough by itself, but it does make a difference that you would.

  • Robin3212003

    Congratulations guys! I think you just succeeded in being placed on the FBI watch list. If they (FBI) do open a file on you, you have the right to request a copy of it. 

  • http://treegrower.org/ CalvinLeman
  • Solarstarr

    good show. really great comments. unfortunately I was unable to watch the video on my phone.
    I thought I might try to watch it on youtube, but wow, I really hate you tube.
    almost time for football.

  • Lindadanges

         Consider using the media to our advantage: 99% ers hold trials (in absentia) for those who have supported and contributed to this inequality in America. Hold  public forums to name the misdeeds–the indiscretions– of these “fellow citizens” who make their laws and uphold them– Start with the Supreme Court Justices who dared to rule that corporations are people, people who don’t pay taxes and can effectively promote their “best boys” running for office.  (John Grishum couldn’t come up with a scenerio this astonishing.)
         Shed light on the misdeeds! Make those who serve at the pleasure of the lobbyists and their clients squirm and put them on the defensive. Name the names!Name the lies!  Name their greedy acts and help educate those of the 99% who are apathetic as to just what their Courts and their Law-makers are about.  And these Courts and these Law-makers were supposed to be public servants? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/agavalis Albert Gavalis

    It’s difficult to define the Occupy Movement because the New Economy itself is difficult to define – with Internet Billionaires from Google, to Facebook, and now Groupon springing up, it’s hard to tell where real money is being made for the average person.

  • Anonymous

    Occupy may be the only recourse Americans have. Voting for evil choices, no matter how lesser or greater, still empower evil.

    they even stop free speech if they don’t like it.  
    the American Dream is gone thanks to the last 30 years of Buying Congress.

  • http://twitter.com/HongPong Dan Feidt

    Thanks for putting this segment together & welcome back to the airwaves. However I would recommend not describing them as ‘leaders’ — that particular word is generally loathed around the movement as it seems a harbinger of top-down organizing and vanguardism.

  • Imogenelpugh

    In the cold winter we don’t see big protests now.  What can we do immediately?

  • the buckaroo

    …now I know why I was feeling funky…needed my Moyers fix. Welcome back, it’s been too long. The Machiavellian super pac surrogates will focus on the OWS in short order, trust me. 

  • Lcrich

    Great segment. I am not sure I understand why the movement believes so much time is needed to effect change. Given the tools available today, the movement should be much more disruptive. They should crash the existing system. I do not understand what they are waiting for. Thanks for bring their voices forward. I hope you will continue to follow this movement and to keep us up to date. Thanks for your fine work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000512176332 Brandon Nolte

    Why is no one mentioning the words Parliamentary Democracy or Multiparty Democracy?  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Leslie/1029755424 William Leslie

    The TV show on Friday started with interviewing random people at OWS, including a couple of financiers defending the 1%.  Is there anywhere I can get that part of the segment?

  • http://billmoyers.com BillMoyers.com

    If I understand your question correctly, you can see that part in the segment on the BillMoyers.com website at around 5:20 here:

    http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-moyers-essay-occupying-a-cause/

    You can also see the entire show, soup to nuts, here:

    http://billmoyers.com/episode/on-winner-take-all-politics/

    Hope that helps. All shows will be available on the website in whole and in parts every Friday evening.

  • 253Joy

    Solidarity from Occupy Tacoma (http://www.occupytacoma.org)

  • Anonymous

    Welcome Back Bill! God
    Bless you and the late Woody Guthrie for standing up for and speaking
    the truth. There is a NYC musician-artist-weekend warrior for the OWS
    movement who  took the the liberty to rewrite and update the lyrics to
    Woody’s classic. His name is Meesto. Here are the lyrics and the youtube
    link of it’s debut at Zuccotti Park back in October. 2011.http://youtu.be/gD044XYuDJcThe
    corporations have taken overFrom California to the New York
    IslandFrom the Redwood forest to the Gulf Stream WatersDemocracy
    stolen from you and me!Ole’ Mayor Bloomberg increased his
    fortunefrom 4 to 20 billion during the worst recession since the
    depressionSomething stinks down on Wall Street!The banks got
    bailed outThe people got sold outThey got their bonusesWe
    lost our houses!Greedy Greenspan, Summers and CheneyMr
    Paulson’s bankers and croniesfilled all their coffers but no job
    offersDemocracy stolen from you and me!Free trade is not
    freeFolks being exploitedFor cheap labor – no living wages!Jobs

    disappearing across the oceansNever to be seen again!10
    years at war in 2 different countriesKilling for oil – wasting tax
    money$1 trillion dollars could have paid forHealth Care and
    Education for everyone!Citizen’s United is an oxy moronStupid

    Decision – corporationis not a person!Elections must be
    free of big moneyNo more politicians becoming lobbyistsNo more
    revolving doors in Washington DCDemocracy stolen from you and me!This

    land is your land, this land is my landFrom California to the New
    York IslandFrom the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream WatersThis
    land was made for me and you!
     

  • Lexi T.

    Moyers’ mention of the Tea Party was astute – but we need more investigation into how two movements can be motivated by the same grievances (bailouts – whether for banks or individual bad mortgages – and dysfunctional government) but end up with totally different solutions.  A program on this topic could look at who the two movements each blame for the problems and analyze whether these are red herrings or real targets for remedying the economic and political morass we’re in.  (The segment on economic inequality is part of this.)  

    I thought Randy LaBosso’s two articles for the Philadelphia Weekly on the common roots of the Tea Party and Occupy brought up some crucial similarities and differences, but these ideas could be further researched and refined.  

    The Occupy “dream” has a future if people can think outside the political box and not reach for the color-coded culprits (red:taxes, blue:the rich) AND if they can help people visualize their own dream and help them work towards it.  Just please do not suggest opting out of the system we have or this vacuum will give the special interests even more power!  Let people choose and use all of the tools we have to inch closer or leap towards that dream.

  • Laughingallaboutthefuture

    Am I the only one who knows what Usury is? About the creation of the Federal Reserve? How can this “movement” ignore these topics? Is it on purpose? Is it ignorance?

    Watch “The Secret of Oz” and “The Money Masters”, please. It’s the best ammunition against the banks there could possibly be.

  • Sunbecomesea

    Am I the only one who knows what Usury is? About the creation of the Federal Reserve? How can this “movement” ignore these topics? Is it on purpose? Is it ignorance?

    Watch “The Secret of Oz” and “The Money Masters”, please. It’s the best ammunition against the banks there could possibly be.

  • Pottersville

    It makes me sad to see political neophytes on the fringes refer to “the lesser of two evils” when the “two evils” (Republicans and Democrats) are not the same, are not the same level of “evil”. When naive voters like these two don’t vote for Obama again, it opens the door for a Republican, like George W. Bush, who can and will do real damage to the country again. The people on the fringes, the Occupiers on the left and the Tea Party on the right, demand a level of “purity” from politicians that frankly, isn’t possible when representing so many. This sort of black-and-white thinking on the fringes is what is fracturing a country and a planet that increasingly demands complicated, intelligent solutions that won’t satisfy just those on the left or just those on the right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=776324551 Nick Gaerlan

    at 10:20 Moyers nails it “…in the REAL world” the big problem with OWS is the idea that the solution involves withdrawing from those currently in power. that guy is not going to vote. they aren’t interested in making allies in politics. 

  • Samsommers

    Mr. Moyers,
    Please interview Julia Butterfly Hill.  Her voice needs to be heard in this country, in the world, at this time.  Please view http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyLiOnmBZLw  she is right up there in my book with Ghandi, Martin King, and others who brought a new message to the world. 

  • Anonymous

    “I think that what this movement is going to do is, and I hope– well, I hope that we, hopefully help and facilitate people to empower themselves to take action” says a spokesperson from OWS above.” People.. aren’t they people too?  They won’t vote, they won’t form demands – I understand the need to gel ideas, wants, needs, and dreams – but all who came before them, who had a dream or an ideal, who said, “now this simply won’t do, change is essential” all before them, also had the courage to take action. A premise of our founding was the right to organize and to have power in numbers, isn’t that what democracy actually is? OWS is a bit too much like “Hamlet” – simply enduring and pondering the arrows of life’s misfortune, without the courage to act. You can be inclusive, you can evolve, and still stand for things, still demand things. 

  • Anonymous

    It is like saying “This place is a mess,I will take a stand to encourage others to clean it up.” Well, picking up a broom might be more effective.

  • manwithdog

    Nelini Stamp hit the nail on the head when she said that we put too much faith in one person, Pres. Obama, and “look what happened in 2010.” If all of us who worked to get Pres. Obama elected got out in the streets and continued to put the pressure on moving forward a progressive agenda instead of sitting back and letting the Tea Party suck all of the air out we would likely be in a much better place today. It’s good to dream but as Saul Alinsky said, “As an organizer I start from where the world is, as it is, not as I would like it to be.” We need to turn these good ideas into political action and organizing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bruce-Weide/671051040 Bruce Weide

    The thread you are on Bill, and your unravelling of the story over the last few episodes has been riveting and vital. Thanks so much. 

    I get it on what Nelini and Amir are saying – that the dream has to come first. But I think that it is also a sign of how obscure and covert the real criminality has been in our system. Nobody wants to lynch the wrong person. But it is the very skill which makes the suppression so obscure that drives the populace into apathetic resignation, which cedes all power to those that are smart enough to manipulate us. 

    I do wish you would get out of the box, though, about pitting the Tea Party against OSW. I understand that In-the-box thinking would see them as polar opposites. But they are similar and on the same side in that they agree that the system is broken. They are both furious that banks got bailed out. What could me more similar?

    But the question is how did too big to fail come about, and how would you fix it, and I’ll bet so many of the rank and file of both movements aren’t quite articulate on it. Not trying to be an authority or pundit myself here, but here is a fundamental question. If we agree that too-big-to-fail must be unraveled, there are two ways you might go. 1.) Remove all government assurances of support, such as GSE like Fannie Mae, and yes – even the FDIC. That would cause consumers to beware that they are NOT protected and they better be asking some hard questions about your bank’s portfolio, before you deposit. That would be the Libertarian point of view. (Even Libertarians support laws agains fraud, if the bank should lie to you.) 2.) If you are going to support the financial sector through government SUPPORTS, then regulate the dickens out of it and protect the tax payer. (Could there maybe even be a choice between the two?)

    And it is this marriage of govt and markets that also opens the revolving door to all the cronyism.

    I’ll bet that you could find people in both – the Tea Party and OSW that would opt for either. I’ve had enough of this left-wing right-wing garbage. Republicans lie that they are anti-government when they can score a deal, and Dems lie when they say they will run a government for the people with integrity, when they love Wall Street. They both have their cozy cronies through this ungodly marriage.

  • Barksdale149

    Mr. Moyers please come to Cleveland Ohio I got a story for you that nobody will believe can and has happened to american citizens its in court now you will be disgusted with the Judges as I am who protect each other openly curtsy of  Deutche Banks money?

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
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  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
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    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

  • http://twitter.com/mom2rose mom2rose

    Kp up your great work!  Vote 4 project that brings social justice 2 Walmart
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9349879.htm
    Pls re-post

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    What is your opinion about the lack of media coverage on the occupy wall street movement? I am a student at Mohave Community College in Lake Havasu City, AZ. Our sociology class has a website highlighting the concerns of members of the movement. In an attempt to spread this message, we have simplified the information and trends of wealth distribution in the U.S. into a few simple charts and made a video to be placed on Youtube. The site is usfish.net. Let me know what you think.Thanks.