The Supreme Court issued its ruling on Fisher v. University of Texas on June 24. In a 7-1 decision, the justices ordered the lower court to take another look at the case under a “more demanding standard.”

The decision was a long time coming. The Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case, which challenges the constitutionality of race-based affirmative action, back in October. Shortly after, Laura Flanders talked with Kimberlé Crenshaw and Luke Harris, co-founders of the African American Policy Forum, about the case, the precedents, the potential outcomes, their personal stories and why they believe we still need race-based affirmative action.