BILL MOYERS: During the Republican hearings on the meltdown of ObamaCare’s website, Representative David McKinley of West Virginia knew what he wanted.

REP. DAVID McKINLEY: I haven’t heard one of you apologize to the American public. […] Are apologies not in order? […] I’ve just, I’ve not heard the word, I’m sorry. […] Apologize. […] I don’t understand why there’s not an apology. […] But, I apologize. I haven’t heard that from any one of the four of you.

BILL MOYERS: He got it.

MARILYN TAVENNER: I want to apologize to you that the website has not worked as well as it should.

KATHLEEN SEBELIUS: You deserve better. I apologize.

BILL MOYERS: Considerate, appropriate, and futile. The apology didn’t squelch the partisan tirades or quench the Republican thirst for revenge, their outrage that the Affordable Care Act, that is, ObamaCare, even got this far. But it did provoke some of us to wonder, isn’t it fair to also expect at least a tiny bit of remorse, just a morsel of apology, from the Republicans? As NPR’s astute health care reporter Julie Rovner reminded us recently.

JULIE ROVNER:: When it became clear that HHS would need more money to build the federal exchange than had been allocated in the original law, Republicans in Congress refused to provide it.

BILL MOYERS: So to get it started, officials had to scrape together money from a variety of other offices. This happened back in the thirties after congress passed Social Security but failed to sufficiently fund the board that was supposed to run it. Republican opponents of ObamaCare have gone further. After it passed they stalked it like Jack the ripper.

In the states, through the courts, all the way to the Supreme Court, which, uh-oh, ruled it constitutional. In last year’s election, when they lost again. But quit? Never. For Republicans, this has become their Alamo.

In July, less than three months before scheduled launch, the speaker of the House, Republican John Boehner, drew one more line in the sand.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER:: ObamaCare is bad for America. We’re going to do everything we can to make sure that it never happens.

BILL MOYERS: And yet, the darn thing survived, despite the administration’s own serious very mistakes. As Rovner reported, Obama’s people naively figured Republican states couldn’t resist all that cash coming down from the federal government and would decide to create their own insurance exchanges and expand their Medicaid programs.

Not so. Republicans, it seems, have their principles, and health care for poor people is not one of them. Ideology trumped money.

Republicans aside, ObamaCare had its own built-in problem, born of original sin. And some of us have to resist the temptation to say, “We told you so!” Four years ago we said the public option in health care, a kind of Medicare for all, would be easier to launch and simpler to operate than the Rube Goldberg contraption that came to be known as ObamaCare. Rube Goldberg, for those of you under a certain age, was the fellow who designed machines that made simple tasks much more complicated.

Back in 2009, when Obama first became president, polls showed the public option was a popular idea. Lots of Americans were fed up with paying bloated premiums to giant insurance companies that charged us for their plutocratic salaries and excessive profit margins. We wanted an alternative. And once upon a time, so did candidate Barack Obama.

SEN. BARACK OBAMA:: Now, if I were designing a healthcare system from scratch, I would probably move more in the direction of a single payer plan.

BILL MOYERS: But as President, Obama buckled when conservative Senate Democrats, yes, Democrats, threatened to join Republicans in a filibuster if his plan included a public option.

SEN. BLANCHE LINCOLN:: --that I’m prepared to move against moving to the next stage of consideration as long as a government run public option is included.

BILL MOYERS: The biggest pill among those corporate Democrats was industry lapdog Max Baucus of Montana, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. At one point Baucus even had advocates thrown out of his hearings:

SEN. MAX BAUCUS:: I’m sorry. There will be order. Can we have a recess until order can be restored.

ADVOCATE:: --want a single payer system. Why do you insist on spending more money when the single payer will give it to us at the price we’re spending now?

BILL MOYERS: Still, ObamaCare made its way through the gauntlet of mercenary senators, predatory lobbyists, and greedy corporations to become law.

Rube Goldberg would have been a very happy man. His principle, why do something simple when it can always be made harder, carried the day. And by the time it became law the Affordable Care Act was a monstrosity of complexity.

Sure enough, on opening day, what the Republicans couldn’t accomplish happened anyway. Screens froze. Error messages flew. Data was corrupted. The system broke down, and ObamaCare stalled at the starting gate.

Supporters gaped at the wreckage of their best-laid plans, opponents gloated, and Republicans, of course, called hearings, which any opposition party would have done. But you must note the irony here, the party that had thrown roadblock after roadblock wherever they could and had just shut the government down to stop health care reform, now loudly complained that government wasn’t working and people couldn’t get, you guessed it, health care reform.

REP. DAVID McKINLEY:: Apologize. […] Apologize […] An apology.

BILL MOYERS: Ok, Representative McKinley, you got it. But wouldn’t a little humility would be in order here? Democracy is imperfect, and we need to work with what we’ve got. And what we’ve got is the Affordable Care Act. We also need to remember that at the outset, big ventures often go awry. Not just in the public sector. Remember when Apple introduced the iPhone4 in June of 2010?

STEVE JOBS:: We’re having a little problem here.

BILL MOYERS: Steve Jobs couldn’t get it to connect to the internet. Embarrassing, but they worked it out. When Facebook went public last year a “technical error” in NASDAQ’s system delayed the start of trading, resulting in a loss to market makers of half a billion dollars.

And those of you old enough to know who Rube Goldberg was may recall the rollout of the Edsel, a Ford motor company automobile so awful its name still is synonymous with a costly flop.

And let’s not talk about Lehman brothers, Bear Stearns, AIG, JPMorgan Chase. The crash of ’08. Beside those calamities, ObamaCare’s computer problems pale.

Oh, yes, mistakes are made by big corporations and big government. And although I was for something else, something simpler and easier to manage, I’m betting this will get fixed.

As for those strident partisan voices crowing over ObamaCare’s first bad round, ask yourself if those weren’t some of the same voices cheering on the invasion of Iraq and promising victory would be swift and easy. Ten years. Trillions of dollars. And all those lost and wrecked lives. Have we heard any apology?

Bill Moyers Essay: Obamacare: The Right Wing’s Alamo

As Republican members of Congress demand apologies and administration officials dutifully offer up mea culpas for the botched Obamacare rollout, Bill wonders, wouldn’t it be fair to expect just a morsel of apology from the right as well?

The right has been relentless in its battle against the Affordable Care Act – as if it’s their version of the Alamo, Bill says. Despite the law’s passage and its constitutionality upheld by the Supreme Court, they refuse to give up, even shutting down the government to try to force a delay of funding: “And yet, the darn thing survived, despite the administration’s own serious mistakes.” What’s more, Bill points out, this isn’t the first time a major government initiative hasn’t gone according to plan. Where are the apologies from the other side for the war in Iraq? “Mission Accomplished” indeed.

Producer: Robert Booth. Editor: Paul Henry Desjarlais.

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  • HR676

    Republicans are absolutely right that the Affordable Care Act is a terrible bill but it is their version of universal healthcare, it is a Rube Goldberg re-invention of the wheel with healthcare profiteers in charge and it leaves millions under-insured or just plain uninsured. Its dozens of useless parts are meant to serve corporate America while Medicare for All HR676 offers comprehensive healthcare coverage for everyone using the infrastructure of standard Medicare already in place. ACA, on the other hand, rations healthcare according to socio-economic class with its offerings of bronze, silver, gold, and platinum policies, all of which lack any comprehensive coverage.
    The hypocrisy of Republicans knows no limit and they get away with it because Americans suffer from a national Alzheimer’s disease, they can’t remember what happened yesterday and vote Republican and corporate Democrat today against their own best interests.

  • betty donnelly

    Bill love your shows. You were in the top echelon of government in the 60’s . What would be the top 10 things you would do to save our Republic ?

  • Anonymous

    Moyers 2016.

  • Anonymous

    With the minority GOP in an overwhelmingly show of non-support, ACA was passed by a very slim partisan majority. (This also seems to translate equally to the American public). So…it was passed, made law against what I would call a “fair amount” of opposition from the elected minority & American public, then made constitutional as a tax by SCOTUS. Done…let’s get it ready to go. Regardless of all the GOP shenanigans for defunding, this should not have stopped forward progress for the big rollout Oct 1. What we have seen is an Epic Fail from those in charge of getting the ACA rolling…and it’s truly epic. Asking for the right to apologize…for what? All that’s happening now is the finger pointing & blame throwing that’s coming from the WH is just confirming to everyone in this country that maybe this admin doesn’t have a good handle…on anything. The rhetoric that the WH “didn’t know” is just another laughable piece of fodder for Jon Stewart & many other folks world wide. The Left owns this…pony up, make the damn thing work, admit the blatant lies of “keeping your existing plan” & quit trying to blame everyone else of the massive incompetence that has obviously been plaguing this entire project.

  • Terri Schiavone

    excuse me, apologies for the war in Irag?? The dems voted for the war, twice even, come on….read the facts.

  • Teresa Fiorante

    You make a good argument for apologies, but American people want better from those in office. We are in fear of government taking over our lives and government doesn’t manage well, so how can we trust our health care and money to them???

  • Jeffrey William Lynch

    The administration’s “serious mistakes,” I believe, were carefully planned to hoodwink the American people. Both President Obama and Kathleen Sebelius are no “Dummies.” Time will demonstrate my point, the “truth” almost always comes into light in matters such as these.

    Yes it is true, that every American will eventually have health insurance due to this legislation, which is a good thing in principle. The “truth” about the real agenda of ObamaCare is in the details.

    I normally don’t agree with the Republicans on most things, but this time they are on to something. The true motives for ObamaCare involves control and profit for the Insurance Industry, not providing affordable health coverage for the masses, that so many on the other side are claiming. Time will tell.

    Yes, more people will have health care coverage due to this mandate, however once the thing is up and running we will see that not only the numbers of those covered have gone up, overall, the average costs for coverage, and deductibles will also rise. Bottom line: Profits for the already highly profitable Insurance industry.

    The President lied. Period. He knew that his promise of “If you want to keep your existing plan and Doctor,” was not a credible promise.

    The obvious and verifiable lies from both sides of the aisle, are just the tip of the iceberg of what’s coming.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your comments! I have always been in favor of single payor and keeping the insurance companies out of it. But your comments about the implications of socio-economic class built into “bronze, silver, gold and platinum” are very astute. You put your finger on another part of this law that ensures the gold standard in health care is only available to the wealthy.

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  • Larry

    Seems to me that if the GOP members had just spent all that energy on working to fix all the problems with the original ACA, refining it and making it truly ready for prime time, instead of dedicating themselves to stopping its roll-out, we could now have the best healthcare program in the world.

  • Solid State Max

    Mr. Moyers, I know that you’re not really happy with what the modern day Demo Party has done on health care from Hillarycare fiasco all the way to Romneycare/Obamacare fallout and a likely heading into caving in on Ryancare to seal the fate of Medicare and Social Security. You worked in the LBJ administration that passed Medicare for 65 and over to go along with Social Security so I don’t think that you really believe the partisan bs of trying to compare the history of Social Security rollout to Romneycare/Obamacare/ACA. Truth is, even if there still wasn’t TV, radio, or Internet, ACA in its current form was fatally flawed and doomed to fail from the getgo unlike Social Security. Just because Foxy Spews attacks a regressive legislation that they wouldn’t attack the Repugs for passing doesn’t make it “progressive”. You know that the Democrats should have united and honestly tried to pass Medicare Part E aka single payer but they BLEW IT BIG TIME.

  • Solid State Max

    1968, 1972, or even 1984 or 1988 would have been the best times to run for president as a Democrat before the triangulators were firmly in control of the Democratic Party. He’ll have to run as an Independent if he tries it out in 2016.

  • Anonymous

    Moyers is an independent thinking, wise, thoughtful, experienced and intelligent American of integrity well above the pettiness of the left and right. One way or another, America needs Bill Moyers in the White House. If not as an advising sage of the American experience, then preferably as President Moyers.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Moyers, think about it: when has Al Qaeda ever apologized?

  • David J Strumfels

    If only I had Picard’s facepalm. Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization, not a responsible leader. Do people like you ever think before opening your mouths?

  • Charles Shaver

    The real problem with Obamacare is that it doesn’t address two major causes of the healthcare crisis, a fourth class of very, very mild (‘subclinical’) food allergies and the commercial use of U.S. FDA (FDA) approved adulterated and combined psuedo-foods. In the early ’70s the FDA approved the use of chemically treated soy and by 1979 we had the onset of an epidemic of female breast cancers, minimally. In 1980 the FDA approved the expanded use of added (as opposed to natural) monosodium glutamate (MSG) and we saw the beginning of an epidemic of obesity and diabetes, minimally. In 1981 the FDA approved the use of aspartame (artificial sweetener) and an epidemic of brain cancer, minimally, presented. Surely, to reverse those illegal and unwise FDA approvals would be a better way to start to improve healthcare than to provide and require better and greater access to incompetent diagnosis and dangerous, expensive treatments. Perhaps a Bill Moyers segment or two on subclinical allergies and toxic foods would help.

  • Hannah

    The “Republicans are on to something”? You do realize that the ACA/”Obamacare” is a Republican plan from the 1990’s. Private insurance based, mandated for all. And… do you really think Republicans care if all citizens have affordable health care? With all they’ve tried to do – privatize Medicare, refuse Medicare funding, vote to repeal the ACA 40+ times? Far better that we had a single payer system.

  • Phil Grove

    When Bush’s Prescription D plan rolled out it was fiasco to trying to enroll and I’ve seen clips on facebook where different Repubs were making excuses and asking for patience as anything new usually has glitches .

  • Phil Grove

    Hey David, it’s tough being a progressive compared to a conservative….WHY ?> because it’s easier to give the middle finger than a helping hand.

  • Brenda Duffey

    Humility is a quality not very common with people in power. The judgement against Obama for “being indecisive” about the military strike in Syria is one example. In my opinion, he listened to the American people and changed his mind When he listens and tries to be rational, he gets judged. I only wish he could be more aware of recognizing all the problems with this “Affordable Health Care Act” that is neither affordable nor health care and in my opinion is unconstitutional.

  • Phil Grove

    Hell, the whole thing was based on a plan of theirs they were working on under Bush Admin.
    H Y P O C R I T E S !

  • Phil Grove

    not all democrats

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Republicans need to apologize for allowing this mess Obamacare to be passed and implemented.

  • My3Cats

    I also recall “Richard S. Foster, the chief actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which produced the $551 billion estimate, told colleagues last June that he would be fired if he revealed numbers relating to the higher estimate to lawmakers.” ( and the 15 minute vote in the House that was extended past the legislative time so that Republicans could arm twist and threaten people if they didn’t vote YES on it?

  • Tomi M.

    How do we change our culture? Rich would do anything to protect what’s theirs. They would go far enough to take food from tables of poor. I would like to hear from those deeply religious people why don’t they make room at their table for the hungry and powerless… How do they reconcile their religious teachings and what they don’t do. I’m not religious. I’m not rich. But I do what I can to help when I can because that’s what my parents taught me – to be kind to others.

  • Anonymous

    There are some societal needs that just don’t work witb the private sector profit without responsibility ethic. Even Friedman was clear that profit making must work within laws and societal ethical standards. “… free and open competition without fraud or deception.” from 1970 NYT article.

  • Anonymous

    I think if that happens there will be overwhelming pressure to add “the public option” or “medicare for anyone who wants it” to the choices. The private sector firms will cut overhead and compete or die.

  • Jeffrey William Lynch

    You confirm my point exactly. They’re all in on it, Democrats and Republicans. They’re all crooks parading around in suits and ties, telling the American people nothing but lies.. (I’m going to have to use that line in a song.) Thanks for the inspiration!

  • scat

    Follow your own advice and check out the ACA before you pass judgment. Most of what you are hearing in the gossip media is way off base. Since most people do not read insurance policies and have little idea of what is actually in them, it’s really easy to make a statement that others will follow, even if it’s totally wrong and misleading. Once these ACA policies go into effect, those who are at least willing to give it a quick glance will see that it is better than what they have had and in most cases a very good value. A large portion of the estimated 100,000 policies that will be canceled are the ones that are so substandard that they do not meet the minimum requirements of the ACA. In other words, unscrupulous insurors have successfully found nearly 100,000 gullible people to buy essentially worthless pieces of paper.

  • scat

    You are addressing an important issue in terms of healthcare, but it does not fall under the purview of health insurance. Someday it may if we come to the realization that insurance companies do not belong in the health care business and we go to a universal health care plan that does not involve insurance. Just remember that there are other health care issues that are being addressed by the ACA that will improve on our present system.

  • scat

    But the so-called problems with the ACA were never a concern of the GOP, except to the extent they could be ginned up to take down President Obama, which has been their goal from the beginning. They don’t care about the ACA one way or the other. They are just playing politics.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sad that Bill confused the “public option” with single-payer aka Medicare for all. The public option was a false flag, apparently created to kill single-payer reform. The very group Billl interviewed, PNHP, have a good explanation of the flaws in the public option (which introduces yet more bureaucracy, instead of eliminating it). Their paper is here:

    I remember Bernie Sanders boldly introducing his Medicare expansion bill, even though the media had helped convince the public that it was public option or not, and Medicare expansion “wasn’t popular enough” (support was over 60% before the disinformation started). This was a once-in-a-lifetime chance for reform, and those opposed to it successfully convinced the media and public to act against their own interests.

  • scat

    It was the Republicans that insisted on a law that would keep the insurance companies in health care. Obama wanted a universal single payer plan. It is the Republicans who have benefited most from the insurance companies.

  • scat

    And let’s face it, the vast majority of Americans are bored to tears just thinking about perhaps reading an insurance policy. At least until they get sick. All those tens of thousands of people who thought they were getting such a good deal for $75 a month hopefully never got sick enough to have to look at the policy and find high deductibles, high co-pays and very limited and low coverage. The ACA got passed only because of compromises to the Republicans who insisted on a plan that kept the insurance companies (read Financial Institutions) in the health care business. When people start educating themselves on this issue, as opposed to just listening to what others say, there will be a demand for revisions that will result in better coverage and lower cost by eliminating the insurance companies.

  • scat

    I wouldn’t place too much weight on this symbolism. The bronze,silver etc ranking system is used in many different ways, for instance as designating rank for Olympic medals and other sports events. To read a purposeful social class intention here is stretching things.

  • 1776

    Not when there is a price tag and service level associated with it…as in if you have more cash, you get better coverage.

  • Kibik


    I don’t entirely agree with the interviewees. I DO agree with 90% of their crits, however. What bothers me the most about this is when they get to Social Security even they don’t mention the simplest fix. RAISE THE CAP on who pays into it. We should also make the 1% contribute their fair share and stop subsidies to those corporations who need them least. We should also reinstate Glass-Steagall that Clinton overturned; end foreign tax shelters; reform our prison system and eliminate privatization; make the 1% pay their fair share of the taxes; raise the national minimum wage; create a full stimulus to fix our infrastructure (creating millions of jobs and benefitting everyone) and make the banks give loans to small businesses. We should also end our occupation of Afghanistan NOW and cease our drone program. I have contacted the White House and demanded they oppose “free trade” agreements if they don’t contain protections for US jobs. Yes, we have a global economy today but if it doesn’t raise the living standards of most people it’s pointless. It’s POSSIBLE that the closed door status is simply due to ongoing debate. We don’t know. So filling in the gaps is just speculation. BTW – Obama has just issued national mandates to take action on environmental protection.


  • Charles Shaver

    True, scat, what I wrote spoke more directly to preventing U.S. FDA promoted epidemic unnecessary illness than to overpaying for monthly premiums to have limited coverage to have a self-treatable illness incompetently professionally treated, again and again and again… Personally, at age sixty-nine now, I prefer spending only a few hours of my time and a few hundred dollars, a year, for mostly minimal ‘check-ups.’ The ACA may be good for some but prevention would be better for all. Thanks for the reply.

  • scat

    And if you have more cash, you can buy a Ferrari instead of a Malibu. And the Malibu is a very good car for someone that wants a car in that price range. In fact, mine is worth more now than when I bought it. Not everyone can afford or wants to pay the price for the best on the market, but they still have an option to get something that will do the job. And the more expensive option often is more about flash and dance than performance.

  • dave kay

    Is this a silly question: Why can Medicare (with all the most expensive insured), financially survive yet the Insurance companies can not make the ACA work if the young healthy don’t sign up?

  • Steve

    Huh? I can’t figure out if this is an incoherent essay or if I just had a stroke? Someone help me, what the hell does the war in Iraq have to do with the Obamacare missteps?

  • Sandie Gordineer

    You realy don’t get it? Hmmmm…

  • Rose

    A better analogy: The ACA is the GOP’s Moby Dick.

  • David J Strumfels

    There is a lot of talk whether healthcare is a right. Right or not, it is still needed by everyone. Also, the Declaration of Independence declares at least three rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Obviously, without good health you cannot have the first and third, and really not the second either. So yes, we must have the right to adequate healthcare too — that alone justifies making government the provider.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Bill was referring to the fact that while GOP Congressman have demanded an apology for the mishaps of rollout of ACA, we have never heard apology from those who through a campaign of deliberate misinformation managed to steer us into very questionable policy called the Iraq War.

  • Steve

    Yeah, I understand that, thanks for the summary. Yes the republicans were idiots supporting that war. What does that have to do with the ACA? That’s like going back to the time of the Iraq wars and the Republicans saying “Yes, the Iraq war is screwed up, but the Democrats should apologize because Sen. Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK in the 1940’s. No connection and equally as preposterous.

  • Steve

    You are afforded the right to the “Pursuit of Happiness”, not the absolute right for the Government to provide for your happiness.

  • JonThomas

    Well, that it an interesting point, but keep in mind that It was not the intent of the framers to define, declare, or delineate what rights are afforded.

    I think you may remember the phrasing…

    “…they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…”

    “Among these are…”

    Yes, there are ‘rights’ that we may not be aware of for yet another few hundred years.

    The phrasing goes on to assert…

    “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…”

    Who gives Government the authority to secure ‘rights’?
    The Governed!

    Who is that forms and shapes the government?
    “[WE,] The people!”

    So, if the argument is ‘whether healthcare is a right?’ Then the answer is… that depends on the present opinion of the people at any given time.

    There was a time when people thought they had a right to own slaves. Do they? Did they ever really?

    That aside, the argument really shouldn’t be solely whether or not it is a ‘right,’ but also whether the people want their Government to provide a that particular service in the interest of the General Welfare.

    Healthcare in the U.S. is being conducted as commerce. The Government, as granted by The Constitution, has every right to regulate commerce.

    If the burdens of Healthcare, as practiced commercially, threaten the General Welfare of the Nation ((which is, and is constituted by and of THE PEOPLE, ) which it has, and continues to,) then the people have every RIGHT to reshape the regulatory laws of the land into a framework which does serve the interests of the people.

    I just wrote this off the top of my head, so I’m fairly sure someone will point to a federalist paper of some sort, or that I did actually make a mistake of knowledge or reasoning, but it’s getting late… i’ll leave this as it stands.

  • Anonymous

    I guess I see your point.
    Bill’s point, although perhaps a bit off topic, “struck a chord” for me, because I also have been waiting for the apology he speaks of, from some GOP’ers and certain News organizations that blatantly got their facts wrong in lead up to the War.
    Perhaps these media outlets might regain a bit of credibility in the process.

  • Jim Smart

    Mission was never accomplished. Blood continues to spill in Iraq and in Afghanistan. The Afghan War made sense. Iraq never did.

  • Jim Smart

    I agree…

  • Anonymous

    It’s not Healthcare,. It’s not about Healthcare. This is all about “Insurance”. It is not about health care, it’s about who is going to give Insurance companies their premiums.

  • Susan Lee Schwartz

    Wonderful. Btter than Jon Stewart, Bill Maher and Colbert.. a serious condemnation of the insanity that has gripped these corrupted legislators who no longer serve the common good, while lecturing on The Constitution… the ‘new version… their own opinions made real.

  • Curtis Merida

    quite succinct

  • Anonymous

    Half of 5% based on a 350 million population is still 8.75 million people & you know how all of their insurance policies are set up?… Me thinks you are laying on quite the coat of sugar.

  • Anonymous

    You guys are quoting the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. The Constitution reads that government is to Provide for the common good and the health and welfare of the people.

  • Steve

    Not sure if you were talking to me..If so, you are wrong. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness is in the Declaration.

  • Anonymous

    The big win is AARP & their affiliate United Healthcare.. Their IT subsidiary CSSI is now on broad to fix the computer problems. Both were involved in drafting the ACA. I found out today my personal doctor for 30 yrs is quitting because of ACA program. This hit me hard but at least I have my medicare which I paid into since 64′ My concern goes out to the 100 millions pluse folks that are forecast to loose their insurance in the next 12-14 mos. How sad.

  • Anonymous

    That would be folks like Ted Kennedy, most senate mbrs, the national intell community, Mbrs of both parties voted to in favor of the war. Not one member of the GOP voted for ACA & just barely passed congress.

  • Anonymous

    If only they had won the recount election in the Minnesota Senate race.. Some how a liberal Sec of State supervised a recount where over 700 votes for Franken were found. That was the swing votes..Over 200 folks were convicted of voter fraud.. felons voted.. what a mess.

  • Anonymous

    Yes a bipartisan healthcare bill would have been great. Senator Inzi of Wy introduced a bill all with Sen Grassley to give meaning to the phrase “if you like you healthcare insurance you can keep it.” This was done in 2010.. Not one Democrat voted for the bill Now we find out why. They knew all along that the grandfather clause was going to remove millions of folks off their insurance program. Allowing folks to buy insurance accross state lines would have increased competition. Tort reform was blocked by the trail lawyers..Health savings accounts might have help attract more people ..The country has not bought this bill & now the false statements that have been made over the past 3 yrs have really made it have an unfavorable rating.

  • Anonymous

    The big winners are AARP and United Healthcare Insurance. It has been forecast that after it’s implementation we will still have 30 million folks uninsured..What did we gain..took 40 million folks to get insurance.. Net 10 million. with a cost we have not begin to appreciate. The GOP did not have the courage or the politicial will to tackle our healthcare problem..The liberals took it on but did it without negiotating with the other side.. No successful major legislation has not been passed without bipartison support. The problems are just beginning to surface..If the young folks do not sign up it will not be funded.

  • Anonymous

    How much is it going to cost the public for HR676.. We know that medicare was sold to us by LBJ & he stated it would cost 12-14 billion dollars.. Last year it cost over 500 billion with a waster & fraud facter of 60-80 billion that the govt estimates. That is 12 -14 %,, The healthcare insurance like Humana & United Health make 3-5% on their revenue Who is more efficient ??? The ACA was sold to us as costing 800-900 billion..later the GAO come out & says it will be 2.7 trillion. Also the average premium was to go done by 2500 dollars ..We have seen increases instead. The govt does not have a good track record of managing most things. I have more confidence in my state insurance commissioner. & they are more accountable. All the folks need healthcare & the states could do a much better job. Big central govt only has lead to big corruption with lobbyist & crony capitalism.. Who wrote this ACA bill… I wonder..big pharm; ins cos; lawyers etc. The folks in wash extort big campaign bucks from pay to play.. ask Jack Abbermose who is the only one in yrs who went to jail. He exposed the system.

  • sawdust

    ObamaCare is an insurance scheme. It is nothing more than a barrier between patient and doctor. Obama chose enriching insurance corporations instead of opening the door to single payer or better still, medicare for all.

    Justice, as in the Constitution, will never be ordained as long as citizens mindlessly continue to sell out their own principles.