Iraq: The War Card

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As part of its investigation into the false statements made by top Bush administration officials leading up to the Iraq war, the Center for Public Integrity has just released an interactive database where you can search who said what, when.

Iraq War Card, Searchable database of false statements
Iraq: The War Card (Photo: Center for Public Integrity)

The Center examined every public pronouncement by President Bush and seven top officials on the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and on the links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. They concluded that eight individuals — President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House Press Secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan — made 935 false statements from September 11, 2001 to September 11, 2003.

Who had the biggest problem with the truth? That honor goes to President Bush, who made 232 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 false statements about Iraq’s connections with Al Qaeda. The runner-up, Colin Powell, made 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction and 10 about Al Qaeda links.

Search the interactive 935 Iraq War false statements database by clicking on an individual’s photo to see a timeline, as well as the statements in full.

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  • Trumbull Desi

    Colin Powell – he’s always the one that disappoints me the most.

  • Anonymous

    me too. at least he seems to be showing some remorse about it, unlike the others. I also think he may have been misled to some degree

  • Warren Taylor

    What’s sad to me is that many of those who deceived us into getting involved in Iraq in the first place are now urging us to do it again! Sometimes I think I have fallen down the rabbit hole.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Colin Powell was deceived into adopting what was then a war plan that had been summarily dismissed by knowledgeable persons as being highly dangerous because of the complications involved by diverse groups in the Arab world. These advisors made clear that a conflagration of violence would erupt in that region should we attack Iraq. The Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz team ignored the advice and we went to war.

    And now, despite the more than 40,000 deaths, thousands of wounded veterans, and the financial burdens still afflicting our country as a result of that sorry decision, Cheney is still urging us to repeat what was a tragic mistake in the first place. It’s time for this man to retire from public life ASAP!

  • Jasef

    Nah, sorry…I think Powell was a team player. Any integrity he may have had has been lost as far as I’m concerned.

  • Anonymous

    There is some kind of mindset that just saying something makes it so. That wishing makes it true. That if facts threaten your worldview, the FACTS are wrong. This is the most egregious kind of hubris, and is not at all diminished in this decade. If you walk out in front of an oncoming train, it’s not enough to deny that the train is coming. There are consequences for ignoring the facts. When they come to pass, it’s not punishment for lack of faith. It’s reality, giving you an update.

  • http://www.southwesterntechnicalsales.com Jack Haesly

    Well, if this does not convince the courts to consider indicting these people for leading the country in to two wars, I do not know what it will take. After all, these people were supposed to have the best intelligence input in the country from the CIA, FBI and other agencies.

  • Anonymous

    Why aren’t these guys in jail?

  • Anonymous

    Because they haven’t committed any crimes.

  • Lisa Kazmier

    Torture is a War Crime, for one.

  • Anonymous

    Cheney/Addington/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz, these were the guys doing the inside intimidation and forcing the issue of ‘benign global hegemony’, which was actually more about power justifying its own use. Egomaniacs who took over the Pentagon and the Intelligence sector.

  • Mike

    Of which they all undermined.

  • D Johnson

    I wish I could give Powell the benefit of the doubt, but that ship has sailed.

  • Davis Gloff

    Excellent question. For starters, lying to congress is a felony

  • Ronald Miller

    This is just my perception, viewpoint, opinion, or whatever; but I think General Powell is one very fine and competent man. He is a true leader. He did what a good general does. He followed orders. Unfortunately, it cost him his reputation and his career. That’s my belief, and I’m sticking to it until someone proves me wrong.

  • Anonymous

    I believe they fed Powell the same line of lies they fed everyone else. That he had been totally mislead, that what he said at the UN was the garbage he had been fed, and had no way to know it was total BS.

  • Anonymous

    Possibly if we can get these warmongers to shut up.

  • Anonymous

    Agree, but none of those you accuse are guilty of this. ….or is your idea of democracy where you are judge, jury and executioner. The very people you charge with war crimes have not even been charged let alone found guilty. Justice for all…..but your way. Things work a little differently in a world where law and order prevail. Before being even remotely guilty try being charged with a crime. Not only do you take a quantum leap beyond being charged you have found those NOT even charged, guilty of a crime. Sounds like you believe in an autocracy where you are the criminal with the power. Now that’s a real fear.

  • Anonymous

    Agree. What’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    Lied to congress? Really? It’s human to err, but not in your book where perfection prevails. I hope you don’t err, lest you become a liar.

  • Anonymous

    We invaded a sovereign nation and we were not provoked.

  • Anonymous

    Not surprising that Bush is the winner although the credit should go to Cheney, who was the hand up Bush’s back. Cheney probably kept to the background because his rabid bulldog look was less media-friendly than Bush’s “come bowl with me” smirk. At least Bush has the sense to stay home and paint, whereas Cheney is being exhumed as an “expert” in the mass media (revealing their true colors). If J. Edgar Hoover was alive, they’d be interviewing him on civil rights.

  • Anonymous

    General Colin Powell is the ONLY big player in the Bush Administration who gave his apologies for going along with all the lies. Powell clashed with Cheney & Others so Bush appointed a YES Personage – Secretary of State RICE. Powell even voted for Obama in both Terms of Office Elections.

  • Anonymous

    Well I disagree with you Ron because even today, if Powell ran for POTUS he’d beat out the collection of Wannabe’s we have today – I also like Jeb Bush but the New Extremists of the GOP Tea People won’t accept Jebs Platform which includes bringing Millions of Hispanic families to a strict but somewhat fair path to the American Dream, Which has been Cancelled out by all the GOP Republicans except folks like Jeb Bush & Coling Powell.

  • nick quinlan

    You lost me when you said you liked Jeb Bush. The Bush family, going back to Prescott Bush, has done far too much damage already.

  • nick quinlan

    PNAC

  • nick quinlan

    Because we don’t have a department of justice. Ask the banksters

  • nick quinlan

    I don’t usually insult people, but are you really that dense?

  • Jamie Lawson

    Actually, they have been charged, and found guilty. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Addington, Gonzales, and several others were tried in absentia in Kuala Lumpur and found guilty of war crimes. So there is precedent.

  • Jamie Lawson

    Powell was more trusted, and so Cheney put a great deal of pressure on him to be the spokesman for the policy. There was a lot of shouting between the two about what to say at the UN, Cheney wanting Powell to say more, Powell wanting to say less. Basically, his choice was to lie or resign. He probably made the wrong choice.

  • Anonymous

    Kuala Lumpur? Now suddenly courts in foreign countries (and that it is a Muslim country makes them biased already) have “locus standing” in the USA – your world Madam is a farce. If you want to try criminals internationally you have The Hague. Nowhere else. As far as I know The International Court of Justice in The Hague has brought no such charges and until such time they do you should rather be silent. …..unless of course you ally yourself with Hussein’s system of law.

  • Anonymous

    I think your retort exposes your own intellectual capacity. Obviously the reference is to Guantanamo Bay. If there is belief of state sponsored torture then it’s your duty to act. Have you? What have you done apart from rant about stuff you know little about?

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! So some family members did some stuff you don’t like so you tar and feather the whole family?

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  • Anonymous

    Wrong Mr. Miller. Powell is just as culpable as the others. He is not a true leader for the very reason you inadvertently give in your comment. “He is a true leader. He did what a good general does. He followed orders.”

    One who follows orders to lie and obfuscate resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands is not a true leader. Moreover, he did the same during the My Lai scandal during the Vietnam War. How many times should he be forgiven before the pattern to his behavior is acknowledged.

  • Anonymous

    Not the whole family…just those who’ve proven by their behavior and policies to be not worthy of trust or high office. Jeb’s role in spiriting Saudis out of the U.S. on 9/11/01 during a nationwide no fly zone after a group of Saudis who were financed by Saudis committed one of the most heinous acts against the U.S in our history; is enough to disqualify him.

  • Anonymous

    Not true. Powell knew or should have known that his performance before the U.N. in an effort to elicit worldwide support for the Iraq invasion was a lie. I knew it at the time and I didn’t even have the resources that Powell had.

    When he held up the vial of powdered anthrax in an effort at fear mongering, he knew that Saddam did not have the technology to make powdered anthrax. Saddam was only capable of making liquid anthrax which has a very short shelf life.

    Moreover, all of Saddam’s liquid anthrax had either expired or been destroyed during UNSCOM under Hans Blix after Desert Storm. Powell was the general who executed Desert Storm and oversaw the destruction of Saddam’s weapons. Powell was either incompetent and hopelessly ignorant or he knowingly lied. He’s complicit in the Iraq War Crime no matter how much his defenders claim otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Those who don’t remember history are condemned to repeat it.

  • Anonymous

    For the same reason that the criminals behind the Iran Contra crime aren’t behind bars. The Democratic Presidents who followed them didn’t prosecute them.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, so now the illegal Iraq Invasion was just a human error? The evidence that you’re ignoring speaks otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    No, they haven’t been convicted of any crimes because they haven’t been tried yet. Hopefully that day will come and sooner rather than later.

  • Anonymous

    You’re confusing the court of public opinion with a court of law. In that regard the court of public opinion is thankfully holding these war criminals accountable even if they can’t be reached by a court of law.

  • Anonymous

    It’s called being “disingenuous”, nick. It’s a usual response when someone is trying to defend the indefensible.

  • Anonymous

    “The Bush family,…” Reread your post and you might want to reconsider your reply.

  • Anonymous

    Such compelling evidence that zero prosecutions have arisen.

  • Anonymous

    When he held up the vial of powdered anthrax, he knew it was a lie. He knew from being in charge of the previous Desert Storm war that Saddam didn’t have the technology to make powdered anthrax. Saddam could only make liquid anthrax which has a short shelf life and most of which was destroyed after Desert Storm under UNSCOM. Powell knowingly lied.

  • Anonymous

    Which is what happens when criminals aren’t held accountable. When we don’t learn from history, we are condemned to repeat it.

  • Anonymous

    “The court of public opinion” elected George W Bush to power AFTER WMD were not found in Iraq.
    In any event public opinion is represented in a parliament not on the streets by some self appointed marching morons.

  • Anonymous

    Wrong. Powell knew he was lying at the time he was doing it. He knew Saddam didn’t have the ability to make powdered anthrax when he (Powell) held up the vial of powdered anthrax at the U.N. in an effort at fear mongering.

  • Anonymous

    Do some research about Powell’s complicity in the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War. You might come away with a different opinion of him.

  • Anonymous

    “Remorse”? More like crocodile tears.

  • Nicko Thime

    He knew it was a lie when he said it. They told him that he had credibility to spare.
    His honor left long before that.

  • Anonymous

    Gathering from your comments here, Mike, I assume you’re okay with trying these guys in a court of law since you seem to object to the “injustice” of them being held accountable in the court of public opinion?

  • Nicko Thime

    It’s what happens when the MEDIA isn’t held accountable. They enabled these liars the first time and all one has to do is watch Sunday TV to know they are enabling them once again.

  • Anonymous

    Ok so where are the charge sheets?

  • Anonymous

    I never mentioned the “Bush family” in my comment. Maybe it is you who should reread my post. You’re resorting to obfuscation because you’re trying to defend the indefensible. Nice try.

  • Nicko Thime

    He knew he was lying and did so anyway.
    He’s just another neocon.
    He tried to cover up the MyLai massacre during Vietnam.
    His reputation for honesty is undeserved

  • Nicko Thime

    Lying a country into war is a war crime. Invading a country which hasn’t attacked you is war crime.
    Torture is a war crime. MURDERING soldiers for a phony agenda is MURDER.
    Now get back to yout tea.

  • Nicko Thime

    Obviously and intentionally

  • Anonymous

    Lack of prosecution is not lack of evidence. You’re very good at using fallacy as an argument which speaks volumes.

  • Trumbull Desi

    I shall do that.

  • Guest

    No, they haven’t been convicted of any crimes. Neither their guilt nor innocence have been proven in a court of law. Until that time comes, they’ll be appropriately held accountable in the court of public opinion, which is as it should be.

  • Nicko Thime

    You are thick

  • Nicko Thime

    He’s a lying sack who lied before the UN. His previous record includes trying to hide the My Lai massacre.
    He’s a neocon POS with better PR then he deserves.

  • Nicko Thime

    Works for me.

  • Nicko Thime

    HE lied. He knew he was lying. Apology not accepted

  • Anonymous

    You accuse me of using fallacy when I state a fact…strange logic?? Please give some facts to prove a case for prosecution. Not liberal drivel – actual fact.

  • Anonymous

    There is no law in the civilised world that requires proof of innocence. You can hold whomever you like accountable for whatever crime you dream up. But it ain’t worth a row of beans without legitimate court processes.

  • Anonymous

    Nice mantra. Now try giving facts – do you have idea what a fact is?

  • Anonymous

    Liar

  • Jamie Lawson

    You make three claims 1) that Bush & Co haven’t committed any crimes, 2) that they haven’t been charged, and 3) that a tribunal that takes place in a country whose population is majority Muslim is inherently biased. All three claims are decidedly false. To the first, we’ll keep it simple. Torture is a war crime. Waterboarding is torture. Bush and members of his administration explicitly authorized waterboarding and this is well documented. To the second, criminal filings against Bush and senior members of his administration have been filed in Geneva and these await service. In 2011, Bush cancelled travel plans that would have taken him through Switzerland because he would have been served, arrested, and tried. The Kuala Lumpur trial in absentia arose as a consequence of the inability of the Swiss to serve papers to Bush. As for the third, the tribunal included two American Professors of Law (one from Princeton the other from Yale) and a British judge. The tribunal unanimously found the defendants guilty of torture, the same charge as in the Geneva papers. Islam was not an issue at trial.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely correct

  • Jamie Lawson

    One of the issues in the Second Gulf War was the transformation of the intelligence community. The purpose of intelligence shifted from informing policy to supporting policy. As a consequence, intelligence professionals both in DoD and CIA were subordinated to politicians. At the Pentagon, for instance, the (now defunct) Office of Special Plans was established with Douglas Feith at its head. Feith had no history in intelligence but was a reliable neoconservative, and he co-opted the Pentagon’s intelligence gathering capabilities to find evidence supporting Rumsfeld’s policies rather than to produce objective intelligence. Many military professionals with careers in intel resigned their commissions or were forced out of the military due to Feith and this redirection of intelligence gathering capabilities.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Bush and Co have committed no war crimes. But my opinion and yours are actually irrelevant.
    Now to deal with water-boarding. Is it a war crime or isn’t it? Very few even knew what this was pre-Iraq invasion. Even today there is debate amongst the legal fraternity but opinion seems to point that it probably is. The legal opinion Bush received was that it was not. Of course it’s easy to have an opinion after the publicity and event but this is hindsight that Bush did not have.
    Whatever filings the “we are neutral in this war where six million died in the holocaust whilst we watched” Swiss have engineered is irrelevant unless Bush travels to Switzerland. Even if he did travel to Switzerland it is highly unlikely that the arrest would be made (Canada failed). The only true test is The Hague and the international court has made no attempt.
    A trial in absentia did not happen in Switzerland, did it ? Why?
    Two Professors of law and a British Judge? Am I supposed to be impressed?? At university I knew many professors and some of them were quite frankly idiots.

  • Nicko Thime

    The voters in Ohio would dispute whether Bush was elected in 2004

  • Nicko Thime

    Do you?

  • Anonymous

    FACT – no charges have been brought against Bush at The Hague.

  • Nicko Thime

    No.

  • Nicko Thime

    There is an entire catalog of the lies they told. You denying it doesn’t change anything about the FACT that they lied repeatedly.
    The only errror was in thinking that the President wouldn’t lie to congress. HE DID.
    Doug Feith was instructed by Dick Cheney to write a synopsis of the CIA report but to leave out that they had concluded that Saddam was no threat whatsoever. This is confirmed by the Downing St Memos wherein they say that the evidence was being massaged to fit policy.

  • Anonymous

    If they went to trial my guess is the verdict would be “not guilty”. But the problem is not this. It is people like you who have recklessly made up your mind about Bush’s guilt without due process. And that I find cowardly and despicable. You are entitled to an opinion and I respect that but do not pass it off as fact when it is simply isn’t.

  • Nicko Thime

    He is a liar. He’s been a liar since Vietnam. He knew they sent him out there to lie.

  • Anonymous

    The conclusion that Saddam was no threat is an opinion and NOT a fact. The fact that opinion is omitted from a report is common to many reports. Reports of this nature often introduce the facts and allow others to form the opinion. It is neither ominous nor surprising that an opinion be withheld from a report. Saddam himself excused himself from future scrutiny by authorities. This in itself could be viewed as a veiled threat.
    …..but again you deflect the issue. The question is; is Bush guilty? I have an opinion which I push as such whilst you hold your view out as fact. And that is our point if departure.

  • Anonymous

    My comments keep being deleted by an obviously biased moderator.

  • Anonymous

    …but yes you are correct and so is the converse.

  • Anonymous

    This blog contains something despicable to open debate and impartiality. I have continually had posts deleted for no reason other than my views. The posts were polite and respectful and the deletion brings into question the validity of this web page which seems intolerant of views not reflecting their own. Disgusting!

  • Anonymous

    A massive conspiracy?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure some would. And….?

  • Anonymous

    My comments were deleted

  • Mirhashem Ziai

    I believe, the US involvement in Iraq was the most destructive decision US officials have ever made. It ruined our dignity, our economy, and worst of all it destroyed our military moral. To my opinion, it is dictated by our democracy to bring all the responsible people to the court of the Law…

  • Anonymous

    I’m not endorsing Jeb Bush -OR- Colin Powell — I’m just saying the normal Establishment Republicans – i.e. Non-Extreme – And independents like myself that I know, see Jeb & Colin as more Presidential & Likable to (Establishment GOPers & Indies) than any of the other Extremists GOPers with includes The Tea Party Hopefuls.

    Mostly because these 2 Republicans are more humane as displayed be their being willing to move the bipartisan Senate Immigration Bill Forward — Which means they are GOPers who don’t mind compromising as opposed to the current Gridlock & !00% Obstruction Policies of the GOP Congress.

    And No – I certainly would not vote Republican – And I hope this explains how or why you say “You Lost Me”.

  • Kevin Schmidt

    I would accept a long prison sentence for Powell.

  • Kevin Schmidt

    They hung Nazis who just ” followed orders.” Everyone in the military is expected to do what is right. When a superior gives an order to commit a crime, the soldier must disobey the order.

  • Kevin Schmidt

    It was General Schwartzkoff, and not Powell who oversaw Desert Storm.

  • Kevin Schmidt

    There is overwhelming evidence to prove their guilt. They need to be held accountable right now.

  • Robert L. Henderson

    The Geneva Conventions state that it is a soldier’s duty to disobey illegal orders. The US is a signatory, making it the law of the land. The honorable thing to do would have been for Powell to resign and then tell us exactly why. Since he failed to expose Bush and Cheney as warmongers, the blood of Iraq is on his hands.

  • Anonymous

    You’re correct, Kevin. I misspoke. At the time of Desert Storm, Powell oversaw the operations as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff both during Desert Storm and after with UNSCOM. But the point remains. Powell was in a unique position to know the difference between powdered and liquid anthrax as well as knowing that Saddam only had the latter.

    BTW Powell has never experienced combat.

  • RLF

    This may be a bit off topic, but one of my most vivid memories of the run-up to the 2003 invasion was the debate in the U. S. Senate. I was psyched to watch it. Finally, I thought, our reps would say what was on their minds and we’d get a full airing of all the viewpoints. I tuned in and eagerly awaited the fireworks. To my horror the whole thing was over in less than 2 hours (possibly less). Almost no one expressed an anti-war viewpoint. I was stunned. That was it? They all accepted the Bush-Cheney-Powell version of the facts? We’re going to war and the U. S. Senate rubber stamped the whole thing? And Hillary signed off on it, too. I’ve never forgiven her for that. My respect for our system of government has never recovered from that experience.

  • Barbara Mullin

    He was the only one in the administration I felt some trust in when he spoke at the United Nations. Definitely misplaced. Went on to feel great distrust for his son Michael Powell and what he did with the FCC. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

  • Jerry Squarey

    Exactly, “Bush family values” have no place in politics. Once a Bush, always a Bush.

  • Sullivan

    Thankfully Canada never fell for any of these lies.

  • Anonymous

    All those in the military supported those lies with their war actions.

  • Anonymous

    Canada would have fallen for those lies with Stephen Harper was PM at the time, because he supported the lies.

  • Lucerne Smitty

    not cool. this stupid war or police action cost my boyfriend so much.

  • Anonymous

    Do NOT blame the military, they did what they are supposed to do and followed their orders. The military is NOT supposed to get caught up in the politics of our leaders because that changes with the will of the people. I thought we learned that lesson in Vietnam. No, the blame for the current fiasco rest squarely on the shoulders of just a select few. These people’s hands drip with blood, of our own people and the 100,000s of iraqi dead.

  • Lorry frey

    Good thing you didn’t so we got Obama instead.

  • Lorry frey

    Unfortunately he was no longer a general at that point and had different responsibilities.

  • Marty Flick

    Agree heartily. Vietnam was also a prime example. NOT ONE MORE!! :3

  • Anonymous

    When you own the Bully Pulpit as Bush & Cheney did – They did not depend just on a lap dog Media. Their phony Iraq War based on Lies would have moved forward as the Biggest Foreign Policy Blunder of this Modern Era with no help at all from the profit driven Media. (Profits Go Up When They Didn’t Pay For Fact Checking)! They perhaps don’t care anymore about Fact Checking.

    Now – Did the Media make it a slam dunk? Sure – and yes – that’s troubling and shameful when we have a Corporate Media playing the Drums of War purely for Ratings & Profits.

  • Dale Rice

    Im with Mr. R. Breeser! Well spoken sir. I am hard to impress, but YOU did so.

  • Anonymous

    Some have the wonderful Gift of Forgiveness – Some Don’t.

    I’m proud to be one of millions who’ve Redeemed General Colin Powell’s WELL DESERVED HONOR – General MaCarthur & General Powell are both guilty of breaking ranks with Presidents.

    Powell broke ranks with Bush, Cheney & Rumey when Powell told them point blank – “You Invade Iraq & You Shall Forever More Own It”!

    Bush & Cheney ignored his wise advice and Millions died in VAIN!

    Then the General went on a Media Campaign for Democrats and For the Election of Barack Obama -So- I am Delighted to disagree with anyone whose heart of hearts is not capable of forgiveness when it’s truly earned and deserved.

    Even when someone is said to be Perfect as Jesus Christ was ‘Said To Be’ – Yet the Christ had the Gift of forgiveness (Unconditionally Given). But in Powell’s case, he made some huge changes after trying to Stop that War.

  • Anonymous

    Well, as a Vietnam (4 tours of War Zone) Veteran I’m inclined to defend anyone who places our lives on the line – So that folks like Nicko can have the FREEDOMS to cut the Hell out of our service & our efforts.

    I’m happy to have served in another one of the (Too Many) Unneeded wars to make America Free & Safe. KNOWING it was wrong, I served when America called me to serve as General Powell did. I shall defend both Powell & all my fellow Veterans of that war. And I find it very hard to respect attacks upon our Generals & our G I’s when they have served our Country for so many who say – Oh Well, you see I’m more valuable to my Country if I just stay Home where I’m Safe.

    And at the same MOMENT I Honor Muhammad Ali and others who were punished for protesting the Vietnam War! They were correct to do that! I was mostly in Vietnam fighting for their freedom to Demonstrate against Wars. A diplomatic solution is better.

    But I will not forgive Dick Cheney’s Halliburton War Profiteering Company & Corporate America’s Other Companies that make huge profits off of Wars!

    LBJ had a Peace Deal ready to implement when Tricky Republican (Dick) Richard Nixon cancelled LBJ’s Peace Deal.

  • Anonymous

    Truthism: Nicko’s 6 votes is much better PR than deserved.

  • Anonymous

    We did not dare refuse orders – And it wasn’t up to us GI’s to decide what was right or wrong in a War Zone.

    We followed orders or we would get the Death Penalty as a Deserter. Where in Hell did you serve with those marching orders????!!!

  • Anonymous

    I did not say anything about Bush Family Values –

    If you’d do your homework long enough – You may find, but won’t admit, that Jeb Bush’s Immigration & American Dream Values are in tune with Democrats, Progressives & Liberals.

    And as I stated, Colin Powell is also in tune with those same values & Policy Agendas. That said, I will not be voting for Jeb Bush or Powell if they run on the GOP ticket.

  • Anonymous

    Sarvepalli: BTW Powell has never experienced combat.

    Wrong Again: Powell was injured in a Vietnam helicopter crash after it received enemy fire.

  • Anonymous

    Can We Move On – No!

    Because When a Personage (Such As Example: Dick Cheney) Re-Writes Iraq War history by saying Himself & G.W. Bush made no mistakes there -And- Said Rewriter now blames the Mess HE & BUSH Caused There On OBAMA?!

    PLUS: I find it difficult to fathom that anybody here is solving today’s problems. UNLESS: We as a Group – Collectively, Can Compel America to never again vote GOP – Republican War Lovers into office.

    But On Topic – I Honor Colin Powell from the very day he told the GOP to go straight to hell – And the Day he told the Bush War Team ” IF YOU INVADE IRAQ – YOU WILL FOREVERMORE OWN IT!” And when Powell voted OBAMA for both of his Terms of POTUS.

  • Nicko Thime

    Hey, if you don’t know about the guy, that’s your fault. He has always delivered the message he was told to deliver.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t ISIS just seize one of Hussein’s WMD stockpiles? Just saying…

  • Darrin

    No. You RWAs just don’t quit. in 2002 was Iraq a military threat to the US, an ally or our stuff? No. Did Iraq permit WMD inspectors into the country and did the inspectors find anything? yes and No.
    Bush ordered the invasion illegally and the entire Bush cadre of war criminals should hang by the neck until justice is served.

  • Anonymous

    Mustard gas and sarin aren’t WMDs.

  • Anonymous

    They did not find deployable chemical weapons. They found what you see in the photo.

    You do realize that our friends have been running Iraq for the past 11 years.

  • Anonymous

    You’re correct. Thanks for the clarification.

  • David Johnson

    Do You know what WMD stands for?

  • Anonymous

    I’m afraid that you may have let yourself be taken in by a half-truth (at best)….
    http://online.wsj.com/articles/sunni-extremists-in-iraq-occupy-saddams-chemical-weapons-facility-1403190600

    Sunni extremists in Iraq have occupied what was once Saddam Hussein’s premier chemical-weapons production facility, a complex that still contains a stockpile of old weapons

    U.S. officials don’t believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated and hard to move, officials said.

    “The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them,” said a military official.

    So yeah, they captured an old and probably useless (if not suicidal to try and use) stockpile that was already accounted for. Not functional weapons, despite what the right-wing media is trying to fool everyone into thinking in order to justify the atrocities they were willing accessories for. At little research into such stories can be very helpful…

  • ISAIAH

    WE NEED A DECK OF CARDS LIKE THEY HAD FOR THE IRAQIS

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t there a vote to invade Iraq? Hadn’t President Clinton and his wife also claimed Iraq had WMD’s?

  • Anonymous

    How was the invasion “illegal”? How did President Bush violate the Iraq Resolution? Was ‘Desert Fox’ illegal?

    In retrospect, the invasion of Iraq was incredibly misguided, but it was not ‘illegal’. Especially if one remembers the machinations Hussein went through to hide his WMD activities. The fact that ISIS has now taken over the WMD stocks that I have read 100′s of times don’t exist-proves the legality.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, mustard gas and sarin are EXACTLY WMD’s..

  • Anonymous

    The only problem to all these studies is that ISIS has found the WMD’s that were not supposed to exist in Iraq. The left will have to come up with a new narrative, which I am certain it will.

  • Anonymous

    Skimming through this board and judging by the comments deleted vs not deleted, it seems that the deleted posts all have a common viewpoint.

  • Anonymous

    I think that perhaps you misunderstood what was being said before, although to be fair much of the blame could be placed on the media for doing their usual poor job of explaining things clearly. It’s not that the weapons didn’t exist period, rather it’s that there were no functional WMDs and that Hussein wasn’t engaged in the type of programs the Bush administration falsely accused him of. There was no debate at the time that there were old nonfunctional stockpiles that were still being disposed of.

    The weapons stockpile in the picture were already old and being dismantled at the time that President George W. Bush finally got his excuse to invade Iraq, his administration had been planning an attack on Iraq well before 9/11 as the publicly available records show. Also Hussein was clearly not developing nukes either. Remember the weapons inspectors we sent over (before the USA invaded even though msot of the intellegence community knew the reasons the Bush administration used were bogus)? Their job was to make sure that these stockpiles were accounted for and in the process of being stored/destroyed and that there were no new programs. The article about what ISIS captured is entirely consistent with their finding that Hussein didn’t pose a new threat with WMDs.

    The problem here isn’t that the “left” was wrong, it’s that the Bush administration and the right wing elements still clearly lied and are continuing to do so to this day rather than admit they were wrong in the past. All while the “impartial media” played along with the call to war rather than doing their jobs and questioning the administration’s (any administrations) claims before the war started. “If it bleeds it leads” is the majority of the media’s true agenda not left/right. Otherwise why would they have played along with the Bush administration’s propaganda so much? All of those lies wound up costing tens of thousands of lives (on both sides) and trillions of US dollars for a personal (for whatever reason) desire to invade Iraq.

  • Darrin

    You’re joking right? The IRR set the legal standard for use of deadly force. Self defense and ongoing wmd inspections. Since Iraq attacked no one and inspectors were doing their jobs, Bush knowingly and intentionally violated the terms of the resolution breaking the law.
    Under International Law embodied by the UN Charter, it’s a slam dunk.
    Bush is a war criminal responsible for numerous crimes against humanity.
    The presence of the boxes of soap passed off as WMDs is wholly irrelevant to the legality of Bush’s act.
    How did the Illegal Iraq invasion cure this so-called WMD problem? It didn’t. There were none. The low grade crap that was passed off as WMDs posed zero threat. The uranium enriched weapons used by the US in Iraq is a much greater threat to the health and well being of Iraqis instead of ISIS nonsense.
    But Bush defenders will plumb any depth to retcon the illegal invasion.

  • Darrin

    By all means, what machinations did Hussein go through to hide his non-existent WMDs? I’d love to hear this one.

  • Mark Battey

    I follow the news very closely and I haven’t seen anything about this. Someone is lying to you, I expect.

  • Anonymous

    Are you kidding? This has been well covered by the news.

  • Anonymous

    The responsibility for the Iraq disaster belongs not only with Bush and his crew, but with every member of Congress who voted for it, including Hillary and Kerry.

  • Miguel Caparros

    We need to do that for this congress and President Obama. Bet you I know where the lies are.

  • Anonymous

    That is not correct — they found no operational weapons.

    Dihydrogen_Monoxide explains it very clearly below. I suggest reading existing comments before posting.

  • Anonymous

    That is incorrect — they found no operational weapons.

    Dihydrogen_Monoxide explains it very clearly below. I suggest reading existing comments before posting.

  • Anonymous

    I’d say the responsibility lies a lot more with those who promulgated the lies that got the U.S. into the war. Those senators may not have been as clever and critical as they should have been, but they were bamboozled.

  • Anonymous

    How about high crimes and misdemeanors for proposing a war for no good reason except to unseat Saddam who made GH Bush look bad.

  • Anonymous

    It was a war for oil..so that the corporations could ship their goods inexpensively around the world. To use the US military for the benefit of corporations is imo treason. That stranglehold on the US government by large corporations continues and is in our Supreme Court and in the way lobbyists do business on Capitol Hill.

  • TimboT

    No doubt the American People have been lied to and misled by colossal TURDS in power of the past 60 years or so. L.B.J. was a lying sack, Nixon obviously, and many of the presidents since. “W” was also but the one in the Oval Office now is by far the worst Lying Sack of “All Time” and yet some people still have their noses up his rectum.

  • TimboT

    I am sick and tired of lying sacks of FECES in positions of world power.

  • TimboT

    All that does not in any way mean Saddam was not a POS of a much lower order. That particular Turd used Serin Gas on hundreds if not thousands of Kurds many of whom were Christians. To Hell with all Deceivers worldwide.

  • Anonymous

    Already done

  • Anonymous

    Hey TimboT. What has President Obama lied about…exactly????????

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t heard a word about this and I consume a ton of news. If this was from the WSJ then it’s a Fox News production and – like everything they say – completely lacks credibility. They’re blatantly partisan hacks who lie 24/7. The Dulfer Report – the result of the official search for WMD by the UN headed by lead weapons inspector Charles Dulfer – stated that there were NO WMD’s in Iraq and that Sadaam dismantled his WMD in the mid 1990′s (which is why we found no WMD in our 8 years of looking). Maybe ISIS found remnants of that (if this tinfoil hat Conservative conspiracy is even true).

  • ProudProgressive

    …and they were fed the same false intelligence that the public was.

  • ProudProgressive

    You equate Bush and Hillary Clinton on Iraq? That’s baloney.

  • ProudProgressive

    The other GOP conspiracy myth is that Saddam sent all of his WMD to Syria. Baloney.

  • Dennis Donaghey

    Really? What if ANY OTHER country on the planet had done it? Would it have been illegal then?

  • Dennis Donaghey

    Two democrats voted against the war: Kucinich and Feingold. Both were rewarded by losing their seats. Does THAT explain things to you as to why democrats didn’t fight the president?

  • lostinbago

    232 +28 = 260 vs Powell 244 + 10 = 254

  • lostinbago

    I hate to do it, but we must admit Bush and Powell were lied to by the neocons, the NSA and the CIA about WMDs. the same groups that lied about Gulf of Tonkin to LBJ and set off the Vietnam crimes. The secrecy and hidden militarists are going to destroy democracy if we don’t destroy all the classification and secrecy in government. A citizenry can only make wise decisions with information and if facts are hidden, those decisions are skewed.

  • Anonymous

    You’re bamboozled!

  • Anonymous

    say, whaaat?!

  • Mr. Bogey

    Until now Cheney has a nerves criticizing the current Administration…Is this guy has a mirror and look up and talk to himself and ask if he’s a liar.

  • Elizabeth Dendor Lessner

    There will always be die hard supporters of the Bush’s reason to go into Iraq NO MATTER what history will say. All you really have to do is to go back to the inception of the “Doctrine of Pre Emption” something that Mr. Wolfowitz wrote up. Then you look at Rumsfield, Wolfowitz and Cheney going to GHB and asking to go after Saddam while they were in Iraq for Desert Storm. GHB said “no”. Fast Forward to Clinton. Rumsfield, Wolfowitz and Cheney approached Clinton on 2 separate occasions to go after Saddam Hussein and Clinton said “no” twice. Fast forward to GWB and Rumsfield, Wolfowitz and Cheney asked/and/or planned on going after Saddam Hussein early into GWB’s presidency. 9/11 gave them the perfect reason. Remember that the ‘WMD” existed during the prior 2 Presidents administrations, apparently neither were concerned enough to bomb a country killing possibly 100,000 Iraqis for them. Bush and his “men” skillfully orchestrated a drumbeat of fear into an already fearful populace. After the attack on the U.S. soil, just the suggestion of a slight possibility of Saddam being responsible for 9/11 and/or might be hiding WMD ….”mushroom cloud”…. Who would DARE say anything against them???? Especially after 9/11 when this country was so traumatized (including members of Congress). Biological and Chemical weapons do have a shelf life and the shelf life on most of the WMD were notably depleted if not any longer viable at all. We had no good reason to go into Iraq. Of course many people got very rich off of that war. Many corporations many records profits. Our economy tanked. The most dire warnings against going into Iraq came true. Yet still people are still trying to justify why we went in there. The facts and history show that this was a premeditated illegally started war.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely. They are complicit in it,

  • ProudProgressive

    The difference is immense . She voted for “use of force, if necessary” as one of 100 Senators, based on the deceitful information that the Bush administration gave members of Congress. Bush was the commander-in-chief of all of our military men, women and resources and he botched that badly. He refused to wait until UN weapons inspectors finished their search for WMD (probably he knew they’d never find any). Not only did he approve torture but lied about it to the American people. He then put Paul Bremer in charge, who proceeded to dissolve Iraqi armed forces, the result of which is apparent today. The Iraqis don’t any longer have the strength to defend Iraq, even though we spent billions in supposedly “training” them. Also, Bush handpicked al-Maliki, who promised he’d forge coalition governments. He lied and replaced any Sunni or Kurd member of government with Shi-ites. There many other differences between Clinton’s and Bush’s roles in the ridiculous Iraqi War.
    Also, Clinton realized her vote was an error and apologize for her mistake. Bush, when asked if he’d ever made any mistakes as President said he “couldn’t think of any”. To this day, Bush and Cheney both have defended all of their idiotic decisions.