Comments on: The Politicization of Guns — Too Soon… or Too Late? http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/ billmoyers.com Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.1 By: kirby http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-35670 Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:43:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-35670 We should quit worrying about gun control and spend all our time,energy,and money figuring out why people today are so damned crazy!

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By: kirby http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-35668 Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:38:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-35668 The legitimate argument for assault weapons: As a free,law-abiding citizen, It is MY choice what fire power I use to defend my home and to make me safe;MY choice,not Diane Feinstein’s,Michael Bloomberg’s,Congress’,or yours!!

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By: Cynthia Faisst http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-26797 Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:31:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-26797 Exactly, unless you are retailing guns in someway you really don’t have that much influence or say about the issue. The most dangerous people in this discussion are those who are making all of the profits and have the most power to corrupt our government.

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By: Cynthia Faisst http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-26796 Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:20:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-26796 Being on strike sure beats being dead.

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By: WaltGodek http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-24967 Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:46:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-24967 Another voice of reason…. Everything in our universe can be expressed in laws of probability. If handguns and assault weapons are kept in the hands of law enforcement and the military, the chances of seeing the parade of little white coffins declines dramatically. Oh, the parade should start early this week! Stay Tuned to FOX NEWS for the live action footage. Keep a gun at home? you contribute to the chances of putting your kid in a little white box. NO, I won’t hide on the internet, I’ll stand by my opinion.

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By: Anonymous http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-24942 Sun, 16 Dec 2012 03:00:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-24942 Let’s focus the debate on caring for the mentally ill. The mass murders this year by firearm has been done by people not receiving proper care and monitoring for schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depression and illnesses of the sort. Sane people do not kill other people. However sick people with access to guns is another story. It’s much like the fire triangle (fuel, oxygen, heat). Remove one of them and the risk is minimized. Firearms are much the same (untreated mental illness, access to firearms, crowds of people). The last two I don’t believe will ever go away and as long as our approach to the mentally ill is through ignoring homelessness, building more prisons, and a more militarized police force, nothing is ever going to change. I propose putting a $50 surcharge on the sale of every firearm, which goes directly to NAMI. A win – win situation.

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By: Anonymous http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-24889 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:38:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-24889 ruh roh…another tragedy happened. Guess it’s time to talk about banning guns. it’s long overdue.

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By: Onlyjoined Foraccess http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17638 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:03:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17638 As a Quaker I’ve been surrounded by calls for gun control for decades; I was one of those voices for a long time but honestly I’ve given up.

Seriously, what good could gun control possibly do now anyway? There are already WAY too many guns out there and they’re not going to just disappear no matter what legislation is proposed or passed. I really believe it’s too late for America.

I’d expatriate to a decent country in a New York minute if I could afford it.(I know, I know, don’t let the door hit me on the way out.)

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By: Richard Frost http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17524 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:57:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17524 Of the three weapon used in Aurora the most lethal was the 12 ga. shotgun not the AR-15. If you think an AR-15 can fire more that one round per pull of the trigger, you are exposing your ignorance about firearms.

Millions of gun owners never commit a crime, either with or without a gun. Why is it that when a mass shooting occurs that liberals want to take the right to personal protection from millions of gun owners that didn’t shoot anyone? I have been carrying concealed for over 15 years and my gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy’s car. That why I’m for banning cars.

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By: Bill http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17329 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:12:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17329 I agree totally with JK. Gun control has less to do with guns than it does with control. How much control of ourselves are we willing to give up in the name of security. Too much already I am afraid. I believe it was Ben Franklin who said, “He who is willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither.” These idiots like “the Joker” get what they want, publicity and notoriety but how about those who have saved themselves and their families because of their right to bear arms get that attention.

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By: Rock http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17298 Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:11:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17298 You are ill-informed. Most victims were injured by a pump shotgun, commonly used for hunting bird and small game. The disturbed young man tried to use a semi-automatic weapon, which jammed. That is one pull of the trigger one shot – not one pull of the trigger and hundreds if rounds. If one of the crowd had been carrying (instead of being banned by the very gun laws you propose) a concealed weapon, this tragedy may have been averted. If this criminal had obeyed the laws in place, this wouldnt have happened . The “joker” could have blown up the entire theater with the chemicals from his apartment – but that was not a part of his fantasy…….
He could of easily ran through the crowd lined up in front of the theater and killed a dozen or more moviegoers without a call to ban the automobile.

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By: Grouse Feather http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17288 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:22:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17288 Very good point.

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By: Grouse Feather http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17289 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:22:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17289 Because they probably can’t afford to?

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By: Grouse Feather http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17287 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:21:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17287 Fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for public use since the 1930s as well they should be.

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By: Grouse Feather http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17286 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:19:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17286 We don’t allow fully automatic weapons to be owned by the public, or silencers for any firearm, why then assault rifles, 50 round magazines, night vision telescopic sights, or armor piercing bullets?

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By: TJJ http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17282 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:14:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17282 There are legal features available to the public today, such as “bump-fire” stocks, which can easily increase the rate of fire on a semi-automatic weapon to that which would closely resemble an automatic rifle. I would rather have fully-automatic weapons be available to civilians who go through the proper licensing and training to own them – when used properly and safely, they can be a lot of fun. But if we outlaw fully automatic weapons, only those individuals who have no regard for the law will be able to obtain them – and nothing has really changed. Mass-murderers will still be as deadly as before. That logic can be extended to firearms ownership in general.

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By: Andrew Goddard http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17276 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:13:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17276 GS, while I agree with your sentiment entirely, please remember that guns “that fire hundreds of rounds at a single pull of the trigger” are FULLY automatic (machine guns), which are very rarely (if ever) used in crimes. They have been heavily regulated since the 30′s. What spree killers use are semi automatics which require one trigger pull per bullet. In fact, many gun huggers will tell you that spraying bullets out, compared to firing them individually is simply a waste of ammunition. Bullets fired singly can create more victims and are thus more dangerous. The speed aspect comes not just from the rate of fire, but from the magazine capacity, which, when larger, allows uninterupted fire for longer between pauses when the magazine has to be replaced. These may seem like small technical points, but if you want to argue with gun huggers, they will dismiss your logic out of hand if you make technical mistakes. In fact high capacity hand guns have been used in many mass shootings and it is their ability to shoot individual bullets for long periods without pausing to relaod that makes them so deadly. But I do agree with you that this type of firepower should not be available to civilains.

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By: MIKE, COLORADO http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17261 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:51:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17261 DONT BELIEVE THE LIES.. LOOK FOR YOUR SELF.. THE TRUTH!!! …Switzerland issues every adult a gun and trains them how to use it:
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TO VERIFY THIS JUST TYPE IN SWITZERLAND GUN LAWS WHEN THEY SAY STATES HAVE STRICT GUN LAWS HAVE LESS VIOLENCE.. THATS NOT TRUE.. CALIFORINA HAS THE STRICTEST GUN LAWS AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS THERE.. ITS VERY VIOLENT STATE..

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By: MIKE, COLORADO http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17258 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:29:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17258 WOW i have never read anything so out of touch with reality.. GS Really? The type of gun you are talking about.. that fires hundreds of rounds at a single pull is called a fully automatic wepon.. Which is not something you can go to walmart and buy… There is a difference between fully auto and semi auto where you have to continue pulling the trigger for each bullet. Fully auto is not readly avaible to the general public.. If the bad guy is using “these toys” they are doing so illegaly!! There are already laws in place for this.. Please tell me more how these gun laws will prevent crimals from breaking the law.. The only people who obey gun laws is law abiding citizens.. All it would take is for you to eduacate yourself. And stop thinking these gun laws would make a difference. I would rather live in a world where law abiding citizens carried guns to protect themselves from the criminals who dont obey the laws..

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By: GS, New York http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17253 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:38:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17253 Why don’t cops around the country simply go on strike until legislation banning assault/military weapons is introduced, and both parties sign on?

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By: GS, New York http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17252 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:35:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17252 Let’s focus the debate on assault weapons: Other than the police and military, what possible justification can there be for people to have such easy access to weapons that fire hundreds of rounds at a single pull of the trigger?

The NRA and gunowners won’t back down from their “constitutional” right to own a gun. Okay. But assault weapons? What legitimate argument can be made for these toys, which kill so many so fast?

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By: Ericka Nielsen Barber http://billmoyers.com/2012/07/30/the-politicization-of-guns-too-soon-or-too-late/#comment-17251 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:56:00 +0000 http://billmoyers.com/?p=11208#comment-17251 I think it would make the discussion so much easier if we called it “Gun/Munitions Industry Regulation” instead of Gun Control. It seems to me that the knee-jerk reaction to Gun (as in “My Gun”) Control is almost instantaneous and confrontational.

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